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  1. Tina
    November 15, 2018 @ 12:21 pm

    My friend had the oven/micro combination thingy and hated it; when the microwave broke they were stuck with a combination that only 1/2 worked. Not trying to talk you out of it necessarily, but to think a bit about it. When you don’t have a combo it’s much easier to replace one thing.

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    • Amy Rohde
      November 15, 2018 @ 1:01 pm

      SOOO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  2. Julie Dawson
    November 15, 2018 @ 12:24 pm

    Could you just change out the handles to something fancier?

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    • NevadaNy
      November 15, 2018 @ 12:36 pm

      That is what I was thinking. FANCY HANDLES.

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  3. Virginia
    November 15, 2018 @ 12:38 pm

    Why don’t you build a cabinet that matches your other cabinetry. Said cabinet would house your oven and microwave and would have a door or doors that closes in front of them. The door would be one of those that retracts to the side(s) such that when the oven or microwave is in use the door is open and slid back beside the units. When they are not in use the door is closed and it looks just like the balance of your cabinets.

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    • Lauren
      November 15, 2018 @ 1:44 pm

      Virginia, We’re doing our kitchen right now and that’s our plan. Just hide the microwave in one of the cabinets. Actually ours is going in a french armoire which is our pantry cabinet in the hallway next to our kitchen. We just had to get the smallest microwave to fit but whatever. We don’t use a microwave that much in the first place.

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  4. Johnece Sloan
    November 15, 2018 @ 12:40 pm

    We had the Bosch combo and really loved it. Never failed. We also took a 60 hertz microwave with us when we moved to Germany. Used a transformer. The microwave portion worked; the clock/timer did not. Also realized the transformer sucked power all the time, even when the microwave wasn’t in use. One electric bill and we started warming things up on the stove!

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  5. Darling Lily
    November 15, 2018 @ 12:43 pm

    Girlfriend… start doing sponsored posts! Seriously, we want you to have that fancy-pants Eye-talian one, and will happily deal with whatever it takes for your blogging to provide it.

    It’s the least we can do, for all the amazing VEB GFT posts that bring us such joy.

    Also, sponsored/affiliate links, etc. I for one would deeply appreciate a few cat care type videos ( what carriers you like, toys, food, treats, so forth) and you could link them through Amazon, etc

    Just a thought and yes I vaguely remember years (?) ago you said you didn’t want to write about all the glory of lightbulbs or whatever, but it may be time, damn it!

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    • Joy
      November 15, 2018 @ 7:24 pm

      I second this. I would upvote this response mega-times if voting were an option. You could totally advertise and make some money here Victoria! This is one of only 2 blogs I bother to read, you’re so fabulous!

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      • judy
        November 15, 2018 @ 8:44 pm

        Ditto, I read you and karen bertelsen- the art of doing stuff- and I would just as soon click on a fund me button. I have been your fan for years,ever since you stood in the middle of a street(looking very chic) holding a sign. You were priceless then and even more interesting now. Thanks for all the joy and wit.

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  6. Tammy
    November 15, 2018 @ 12:46 pm

    I have a Sharp Carousel combination microwave/convection oven that I love. The stacked electric wall ovens that came with our home died on us shortly after moving in. The matching microwave died later. I had owned a Sharp Carousel combo previously and loved it so we found a used one on Craigslist to hold us over until we are ready for a kitchen remodel. I have been using that combo as our only oven in the house for about 4 years and it works fine. If I need a bigger oven, we have a full kitchen in our party barn with a vintage Roper with 6 burners, double ovens, and double broilers. Someday we will get around to the kitchen remodel, but our Sharp combo will do as our only home oven until then. Thank you for sharing your research on vintage appearance appliances. Our farmhouse was built in 1884 and I would love for our kitchen remodel to honor its age but with modern appliances.

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  7. Patricia Hallissey
    November 15, 2018 @ 12:53 pm

    I have an old kitchen, but it’s really big so I am ok with it. I had an old microwave on the counter… I HATE that look. I moved it to the basement, plugged it in and had every intention of using it – I just didn’t want to look at it. I don’t cook with it, ever. If I need to melt butter, I do it on the stovetop. If I want to reheat pizza, I do it in the oven. And so on and on… Don’t bother with the microwave. You don’t need it!

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    • Kay
      November 15, 2018 @ 3:19 pm

      I agree. Plus they emit radiation and have been said to alter the chemical composition of food heated in them. That could be a Luddite unscientific claim—haven’t researched it. When we did our kitchen remodel five years ago I had a cubby made in the island for the microwave. It faces the stove, so you don’t see it unless you’re looking for it, and we didn’t have to spend extra for a door to conceal it. But I never use it.

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  8. Lisa Smith
    November 15, 2018 @ 1:00 pm

    On the counters and backsplash, choose the slate, not the marble. As a former licensed stone care professional, I can tell you that the marble will be destroyed from any acid based spills and cleaning solutions for marble are limited, slate is much more durable and easy to care for. Also invest in a top brand penetrating sealer for your stonework.

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  9. Carrie
    November 15, 2018 @ 1:15 pm

    I know you’re not seriously considering the Big Chill oven, but I have to point out that they take really really cheap appliances made by other manufacturers and then slap a face and a huge price tag on them. And while the price may really be what it costs to fabricate that fancy retro face, I have never been able to get past the idea of paying, say, $3,500 extra for a bottom-of-the-line Amana refrigerator just because it’s been souped up with a retro shell.

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  10. Lynne
    November 15, 2018 @ 1:36 pm

    I have to say, I have never cared more about the choices someone else is making about their kitchen. I am so invested in how this comes out it pains me that you can not have all the fancy things you desire. Those ovens actually made me take in a breath and now everyone at the table in the coffee shop is looking at me like I just found they’d cured cancer.

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    • Ellen
      November 19, 2018 @ 11:29 am

      This. Totally! LOL

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  11. Sue
    November 15, 2018 @ 2:00 pm

    Since I don’t use a microwave very often, ours went in the cupboard behind pretty doors above the wall mounted oven.I recommend a side opening door for long term practicality (not fancy, I know), but not having to bend over a hot door, hoist heavy dishes up and over, or worry about my clothing or hair swinging into the food or the hot parts of the oven was worth it.
    When I was searching for the oven, I was very disappointed in the US offerings. Europe’s has many more options.

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  12. Lynn
    November 15, 2018 @ 2:12 pm

    How often do you use your oven? If you lurve baking and roasting (vegetables, of course) then i guess a miele is worth it? We had a bosch (all bosch appliances) and loved them – well made, mid-range price (as nice appliances go). I second hiding a microwave. Or just don’t have one. We moved and left our old one behind and haven’t had one in three years. I rarely miss it.

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  13. Carolyn
    November 15, 2018 @ 2:21 pm

    Why not get a wall oven with a microwave that matches and build in the microwave above the oven and save a fortune?

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  14. Bees Knees
    November 15, 2018 @ 2:38 pm

    Oh, Victoria! I agree with Tina and Amy about the combo. My friends complain about theirs constantly. Nice idea, if it actually functioned. The Euro designs are exquisite, the retro models might be fun in a second home, but I would be afraid to trust them for day-to-day use. ‘Tis so refreshing to see a young couple pursue keeping their kitchen design in line with the era of the house. You are to be commended for all of that and more! Your aesthetic sense of these things is remarkable, BUT as a practical, older woman with a Scottish heart, I gently caution you that these pretty boxes must work, and work properly. They must work for you! And, heaven forbid, should one or more break down, you will need a local appliance service that has access to parts! I do not think you or Paul would be satisfied having to wait weeks for a parts shipment from Europe? Just my two cents. Maybe this time next year, we will be reading about the sensational Thanksgiving diner you will have planned to cook and host?!? Happy Thanksgiving.

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  15. Giana
    November 15, 2018 @ 5:34 pm

    Forget the built-in microwave! When our second $700.00+ KitchenAid built-in microwave failed, we replaced it with another, strictly for resale purposes. We did not use it—ever! After investing $2,100 in microwaves in 12 years, I was done. Instead, we bought a $50.00 countertop microwave, put it in the pantry, and used only that until we were ready to downsize a few years later. I will never again invest in a built-in microwave. The $50 countertop unit performed as well and lasted as long as any of the $700 microwaves.

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  16. Scaloot
    November 15, 2018 @ 5:56 pm

    All whites are NOT the same – Looked terrible. Now have SS cooktop in island (4 x5 ft), stainless DW, sm black MW (reheat coffee & warm dog food) & my joy blk & SS convection wall oven. The oven is a ‘used’ Kitchenaid found at Habitat for $50. (They were just starting up & stuff was cheap! Peeps here remodel, upgrade unused appliances?!?) Left the original 1930’s wall cabinets, put in narrow open shelves for base cabinets under the wall the chimney is on. Left original deep base with flour & veg bins built in. Above them is original built in bread box with orig glass fronts above. Everyone loves the kitchen, lots of sweat equity but kitchen specific stuff so far is under 2000. New floors new countertops, repaints, new floor etc. Since I had whole house rewired & re-plumbed I didn’t figure that in. Yes I still don’t have new fridge and haven’t figured out where to bury MW, I don’t bend anymore so not putting it on lower shelf. Base cabs in island are either drawers or pull out shelves. If I were buying new oven would have gotten side hinged doors but tripping over a great deal is pretty good too.

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  17. Liz Efting
    November 15, 2018 @ 8:09 pm

    Victoria, have you found the children’s book series Fancy Nancy? Every time I read them to my granddaughters I think of you…you would love them!

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  18. Marceline Bleich
    November 15, 2018 @ 8:18 pm

    My twin daughters are in the room while I’m reading this post, and one of them just said, “See that?” (while looking at the Miele stack). The other responded, “It’s building a meal.”

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  19. Kipper
    November 15, 2018 @ 11:20 pm

    Check out AmyBeth Cupp’s website. She has a Lacanche oven and actually has had videos made at her home for the company. I don’t know options or costs, just that they are gorgeous.

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  20. Kathy
    November 16, 2018 @ 8:34 am

    Any room for the Sharp microwave drawer? We’ve had ours for about 10 years with no problem and no visible unattractive microwave.

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  21. Sue Fiorentini
    November 16, 2018 @ 10:22 am

    People struggle everyday with what they want and can what they can afford. I wanted soapstone and decided that I couldn’t afford it so I went with matte finish Silestone look-a-like soapstone. I still was only able to buy 2 of the 3 pieces of what I wanted, so I am living with plywood counter top on my island. For me , I couldn’t do something I would grow to hate (like ugly countertops) . Hopefully, you can come to terms with your want vs afford, build the kitchen and go on with your other projects, kittens and life.

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  22. Suzen King
    November 16, 2018 @ 10:35 am

    I was just this morning thinking that I would GLADLY take my 20 year old Frigidaire washer/dryer back over my fancy and expensive Samsung ones we bought when we moved. The new ones are all electronic and I can never get the clothes dry and the washer has it’s own problems due to them being made by someone else who wants to control my clothes cleaning. Might want to keep the old micro if it’s working for you. Also, some of the new built in ones have a door that opens and shelf slides out with a push button. I have found these to be a nuisance. Just a little feedback for you on the microwave thing. (See Giana above)

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  23. ceecee
    November 16, 2018 @ 5:41 pm

    I would scrap the microwave. We did. I have heard bad reports on them, anyway. I now use a pot on the stove, or our toaster/convection oven to reheat. Both are quick and easy. Actually, the food tastes much better! Growing up we didn’t have microwave ovens and I am so glad mine was blasted by our electric company.

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  24. Joni
    November 16, 2018 @ 7:15 pm

    Microwave in the pantry!!

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  25. Renov8or
    November 17, 2018 @ 8:39 am

    IKEA used to make beautiful white glass wall ovens that looked like Gaggneau or Miele knock-offs. They don’t make them anymore, but I see them on CL from time to time. Here’s one in NYC for $250:

    https://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/app/d/ikea-in-wall-microwave-oven/6742857301.html

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  26. Edie
    November 17, 2018 @ 1:17 pm

    Hi VEB!
    Heard that convection oven must cool down before using the microwave function?? Could be an issue to research. For a busy holiday meal I would need that second oven and the microwave. It hurries warming/prep of sides, so it must be available at all times for my sanity and speed cooking! Love your kitchen so far!

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  27. Jacquie
    November 18, 2018 @ 5:19 pm

    You are the reason I can’t settle for a new kitchen, I now have a hunger for GFT’s. I will not settle for something that won’t give me what I want. Unfortunately I married a man who received a work bench for his 21st birthday and thirty years later it is still in mint condition.
    This doesn’t help you with your equipment search, sorry.

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  28. Lisa D.
    November 20, 2018 @ 12:30 pm

    Victoria – where do you find these amazing over-the-top products?! Seriously. They are absolutely to die for. You would be a fabulous kitchen designer: you do thorough research, you’re focused, detail oriented, and a perfectionist. (I started an interior design program in the San Francisco bay area, where I live, but real life stepped in and I took care of my late father until he passed away.) I would love you to design my kitchen, (if only I had the money.) I can’t wait to see the final reveal.

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  29. Jen
    November 22, 2018 @ 6:24 am

    Long time reader first time commenter- I love your writing and your house and your Paul! I’m based in the UK and we have the Miele double ovens, one combination and one regular, and I absolutely love them. I’ve never raved about kitchen appliances before but this is one vote of confidence for Miele, hands down! They work flawlessly and keep a low profile, design-wise.

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  30. Sharon
    November 23, 2018 @ 10:12 am

    I, too am a lover of GFT, however, after learning from many expensive GFT mistakes, I now employ a combo GFT/KISS practice.
    Long story short, redid my kitchen 5 years ago- longed for the Le Corneau range- ended up with a gorgeous Fratelli Onofri range that was in my price range. I did inquire about repairs and parts prior to purchasing. Then shortly before Christmas last year the oven door hinge broke. And the 75 year old company has folded. And globally- GLOBALLY!!! There were no replacement hinges. Thankfully we have a fantastic Maker’s Space here in town who fixed my hinge. If I could not have fixed it, I was looking at least the cost of a new range, plus possibly retrofitting the surrounding custom cabinets as well as the soapstone counters. Can you say cha-ching?!? All because of the want of a simple hinge…and my need for GFT”s (I’ll own that!)
    I vote with the previous poster Vigrinia- put your time and money into a GFT that will hide a run of the mill microwave and oven. Then when- not if, but when- one of the appliances break, it will be an easy, affordable replacement or repair. Especially if you leave some literal wiggle room in the area in which they will be installed. Because in our last home we had a wall oven and when it was time to replace it we literally didn’t have the room to install a new one because dimensions had changed since the original had been purchased and installed! Had to reconfigure the kitchen to make space for a new oven- yuck!
    Honestly, you’ve already put so much effort into figuring out how to attractively integrate the frig that it should be fairly easy for you to apply that knowledge to camouflage/integrate a wall oven. The microwave is easy- make one of your drawers into a swing up/slide back cabinet instead (that’s what I did- hides the run of the mill cheap micro fabulously!!) Trust me, in the long run it will leave you more time and money for tracking down/acquiring more needless GFT’s like urns, spool cabinets, etc. and you will not regret it!
    And, if I ever re do a kitchen again, I would seriously consider putting the micro, wall oven, and frig in a working pantry adjacent to my kitchen. Problems solved! 🙂

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  31. Ray
    November 23, 2018 @ 7:48 pm

    I don’t know if you are still looking for a kitchen faucet, but I would check out the Jaclo 1012 – it is the only classic wall-mount gooseneck faucet with an integrated pull out spray I have seen on the market, & it comes in a wide range of finishes (including unlaquered brass). I mean, it’s really expensive ($2000 ish?), but if you’re really committed to that exact faucet design and have the money, it seems like it would work!

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  32. Helen
    November 28, 2018 @ 12:31 pm

    But what about the fancy ovens from the Great British Baking Show? Where the door SLIDES IN so you don’t have to lean precariously over the door? Or, if it’s a wall oven, and you’re short, you wouldn’t burn your side boob trying to get a cake out of the oven?

    Oven oven oven.

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