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  1. shirley
    April 23, 2018 @ 10:57 am

    what’s on the other side of the wall behind the blind cabinet? you could put built-in storage on that side, a niche or a semi-invisible door.

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    • KJo
      April 23, 2018 @ 11:32 am

      great thinking!
      If not that, then at least put a time capsule in the void for future residents to discover.

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  2. fixitchick
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:04 am

    What about a diagonal corner? Just a smidge more space and you can put 3 tall narrow cans in it for trash and recycling. Or a corner china cabinet? I am trying to figure out how to make our kitchen out of antique furniture, because the wood is better, the construction better, it is less expensive, I like antiques, I hate most modern cabinets, ad infinitum.

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  3. Gerry
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:07 am

    Paul is correct. The pull out drawers in the corner are a total waste of valuable under cabinet space.

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  4. L
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:07 am

    “Literally, the cabinet guy didn’t even finish the sentence and Paul had died of OBJECTION.”
    I love this concept. My husband dies of the dame injury every day or so!

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    • Abi Jett
      April 30, 2018 @ 1:12 pm

      DRAWERS ARE AWESOME. PAUL IS MISSING OUT!

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  5. Dana
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:08 am

    I have a lazy Susan corner cabinet. It is from the devil’s workshop. My favorite part is when things fall off of the lazy Susan and get wedged in the back, thus keeping lazy Susan from turning at all until the thing is somehow dug out from the WAY FAR back.

    I didn’t even know corner drawers existed! Wow. They look good.

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    • Kay
      April 24, 2018 @ 10:13 am

      I too have a lazy Susan cabinet, and in 28 years nothing has ever fallen off and lodged in the back so as to stop revolution. I don’t love the cabinet but find it serviceable, and it sure holds a lot. Victoria is right—there is no perfect solution to the corner problem. But I agree with Paul that the lazy Susan is the most efficient solution.

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  6. Anita
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:08 am

    I use that dead space to store things I NEVER use but will not get rid of like my bog coffee urn

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  7. Rhonda
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:09 am

    My daughter has a lazy Susan in her kitchen corner and it is WONDERFUL. Somehow the cabinet face is attached, and you just push, and there is goes. So much storage space! The drawer option you pictured above is a good idea, too.

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    • Suzanne (do NOT call me Susan!)
      April 23, 2018 @ 7:42 pm

      I had the same lazy Susan as your daughter in a kitchen several houses ago. After pinching my fingers in there more than once, I wouldn’t choose that again!

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      • Rhonda
        April 26, 2018 @ 12:53 pm

        Yikes! That hasn’t happened to us yet. It’s a new house, so maybe an improved design?

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  8. Susan (not lazy, well maybe on a Sunday morning)
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:18 am

    How about attaching drawer fronts to the top of 2 cabinet doors that are hinges together to create the look of the drawer/door combo but still getting the lazy Susan?

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    • Linda D.
      April 23, 2018 @ 12:25 pm

      You beat me to it. If the only objection is how the doors look from the outside, then I’d make false drawers on the cabinet door for visual symmetry. How a kitchen works is critical, so if you’re cursing not being able to reach into the back of the cabinet easily, I think you might regret making *actual* symmetry a priority – especially when your back and knees get to be as old as mine! ha-ha.
      The other issue for me is comparing ‘space’ v. ‘usable space’. If I can’t get into the space easily, it’s useless to me even if it exists in the physical Universe. So while I understand Paul’s desire to maximize storage, the truth is most humans stop using things that are difficult.
      So I’d figure out how I want it to work on the inside and then go for visual balance on the outside (as opposed to actual symmetry) – nobody’s got a better eye than you!
      I was intrigued by the idea of a lazy susan recycling center – since recycling is a necessary function AND there’s no wasted space OR bending and spelunking, that solution gets my vote! Plus it appears to be near the sink no matter which wall you place it on.

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  9. Roger
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:18 am

    OMG! That last pic with the drawers!?!?!?! A whole lot of drawer for NO space!!

    Not sure if this will send you spinning, but if not too late in the job, or expense, I highly recommend the toe kick drawers below the cabinets. Great for all those tupperware lids, appliance paperwork, etc. I didn’t know they were an option until a friend got them.

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    • Tawnya
      April 23, 2018 @ 4:33 pm

      AND the toe kick cabinets are good for built in / easy to hide kitty food bowls. Or for storage of large ornate and fancy serving platters. Less fancy baking sheets go good there as well. Or storage of extra rolls of aluminum foil, wax and parchment paper if you like to stock up when they go on sale. If you need such mundane things in your ornate and grand kitchen space. =)

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  10. Erica
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:24 am

    I would go for the two-individual-shelves Lazy Susan concept in a heartbeat! I have a traditional 3-tiered Lazy Susan in my 50’s era kitchen and have very few complaints- it is where all small appliances live: food processor, blender, toaster, juicer, stick blender and salad spinner. The beauty of it is that, for easy retrieval, each item can rotate around to being directly in front of you so that you don’t have to reach over other items in order to pull just one thing out. I hate cramped cabinet spaces as much as I abhor a cluttered countertop and am a much happier cook if everything is easy to retrieve and easy to put away.

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  11. spiffi
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:24 am

    I have been researching this, as I have the blind corner option in my kitchen – TWO of them. Only they were done even more ridiculously and the shelving doesn’t extend into the blind corner – so things just fall off into the depths and the cabinets are entirely useless.

    The last photo of the drawer-fronts with drawers – that IS the solution – except THOSE drawers are obviously not correct. You want drawers that use up the depth of the corner!

    (link if the photo doesn’t embed – https://cdn.decoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Butterfly-corner-drawers-in-the-kitchen-help-tuck-away-those-extra-pots-and-pans.jpg)

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    • Lena Campbell
      April 23, 2018 @ 9:17 pm

      We are planning our kitchen and these drawers are the solution we have chosen for our corner. In 15 years, I have accessed the lazy Susan approximately three times. Complete waste because they hold so little.

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  12. Lori W.
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:25 am

    So, what would the objection to this other than it is ugly? http://www.shelfgenie.com/blind-corner-cabinet-solutions

    Oh, wait.

    Nevermind.

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    • Kiki
      April 23, 2018 @ 12:32 pm

      wow …. what a bunch of clever ideas!!!!

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    • Mary
      April 25, 2018 @ 11:22 pm

      I was going to link to the same site. When we redid our kitchen, we opted for the swing out. I love it…I store my crockpot, deep fryer & other things that I want to be accessible but not out in the open.

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  13. Graham
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:26 am

    How about faux drawer front on full cabinet doors for either option 1 or 2? Symmetry plus function?

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  14. LaNell
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:26 am

    What about faux drawer fronts on top as part of the bifold doors so you have symmetry? Then you could have that awesome lazy susan with garbage cans!

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  15. Toni
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:26 am

    The one thing Paul is failing to consider: What’s the difference between space that is not used or objects that fill the space that never get used because they are impossible to get to or are forgotten simply because we never see them!!!????

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  16. Elizabeth
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:28 am

    I have a blind space in the corner of my kitchen, too. Do you need a space for a reverse osmosis equipment for treatment of your water? It does not have to be accessed frequently and would solve the “wasted space” problem.

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    • Cat Covell
      April 23, 2018 @ 11:56 am

      Great idea!!!

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  17. JeanFB
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:29 am

    Ok first, a am on the edge of my seat in anticipation of the NWoF! I have full faith in you that it is magnificent! Secondly – Paul is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. If I may offer an explanation that Paul may understand…. in his entire life of having cabinets with doors, behind which there are shelves, has he ever stacked those shelves all the way up to the absolute top? Such that there was no space between items and the top – everything is wedged in there, not an inch of space to spare? No? Well then, there is room for pull-out drawers/shelves. And…. things don’t come crashing out, there are not tall piles of things to fall over, because they are all happily sitting on their little pull-out platform (onto which you can certainly stack things, too, just not dangerously tall stacks), and they are very easily accessible, and you do not have to crawl on the ground, reaching back into the depths of the shelf for that thing in the back…. (yes, words, words, words – I too love words) Truly I say to him, I went from customary doors-and-shelves lower cabinets to drawers and pullout shelves and it has changed my kitchen life! Maybe some cabinet showroom has a way of demonstrating how all of the things that fit into doors-with-shelves cabinets WILL fit into drawers, and be way more accessible – if they don’t, they should (marketing plan anyone?). Cuz it does. Whew, I’m done lecturing Paul for now….. but I’ll be watching….. 😉

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    • Diane
      April 24, 2018 @ 10:37 am

      Totally agree. Pull outs and large drawers have changed my life. I store so much more in my kitchen than before with easy access.

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  18. Allie
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:33 am

    I am with you, symmetry > everything. Perhaps you can put everything you rarely use in the dead space? Isn’t it frustrating how much if design involves things that don’t have to do with fanciness?! xAllie
    http://www.theallthatglittersblog.com

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  19. Sheila
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:34 am

    Make a routed, finished hole in the counter the size of cans and/bottles, and if you can access the rear or side of the dead space from another room, make that a recycling spot. We were fortunate enough that the dead space was accessible in our tiny adjoining bathroom, so we lined it with painted wainscoting and rolled towels to fit inside.

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  20. judy
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:40 am

    I second the suggestion of fixit chick-an antique corner cabinet-perhaps in the same dark wood as your other GFT scores. You would need to split it in order to preserve counter space but it could carry your theme to another corner of the overall genius space. This undoubtedly sounds ugly and awful to your readers but with your eye for form and beauty you could execute a design that would turn straw into Gold. Finding this piece would extend the completion date thus allowing Paul a respite from worrying about the @#$%^& Kitchen while hes’ sunning on a lovely Hawaiian Beach and sipping on one of those things in a pineapple

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  21. Susan
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:48 am

    I have two corners in my kitchen. One has a lazy Susan and one has shelves. I hate them both but we need the storage. I am constantly straightening the one with shelves because things just got thrown in there. I have relegated the lazy Susan to my husband. He cooks so that is where he keeps his pots and pans. I never go in there. Too scary.

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  22. Cat Covell
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:51 am

    Paul is WRONG!
    Cabinet pull out drawers are the best thing ever!!! I have 3 in my kitchen and if I could have them everywhere I would. They make all parts of the cabinet space equally accessible. When Paul is older and less bendy he will realize the error of his ways!

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    • Kelly B
      April 24, 2018 @ 9:47 am

      Drawers are THE BOMB. Seriously. I just moved to a house with a kitchen 60% larger and it is horrible. WHY? Because straight out, they have standard drawer-over-cabinets – everywhere. My other house – we redid the kitchen with 4 banks, three banks, and then the island had double sided entry and I could put everything everywhere. Yes I had some standard cabinets, but in reality, between the island and the upper cabinets, you don’t need many. And my spice drawers – my kingdom for spice racks.
      The blind corner will receive the fondue pot from your wedding and you will never use anything in it. Either the pull out drawers, or the two fold door with the spinner inside like the one with the garbage bins in your pics. It’s symmetrical for you and it has functionality.

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  23. Valerie Hutcheson
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:53 am

    V! I am in complete agreement with JeanFB! Drawers and pullout shelves have also changed my kitchen life! We opted to do high quality Lazy Susan in corner (high quality a must-if they don’t spin well they drive you nuts-just like blind corners do…!), however I was very intrigued by the drawers. Have not used-but think I would love.

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  24. Jenny
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:53 am

    I have to confess, I was disappointed about the Kingdom mirror’s passing. Upon reflection, though, I came to a realization (or perhaps a few of them). First a brief story: When I was still in high school, my brother in law (at least 15 years my elder) bought a 1976 Corvette. (It wasn’t that old, which tells you approximately how old I am, but the point is that even at just 2-3 years, old, the ’76 was considered an apex of muscle-car classicness.) He didn’t drive it around, after taking us all on a ride. He just parked it in the garage. Kept it in mint condition. AND THEN HE SOLD IT. Teenaged me did not understand this in the least. Why have a cool car–maybe THE Cool Car–and not enjoy it, and then sell it on?

    Because he wanted to start a winery.

    He liked the car, but he had a different priority. If he hadn’t NEEDED the car to get what he wanted, he might have kept it and driven it.

    So remembering this and suddenly understanding this, I was able to reconcile your decision to sell the Giant Fanciness that we all wished we owned and had room for. Not that you want to start a winery, or that you only got the Kingdom Mirror for its investment value. But you have reasons for what you do, perfectly valid reasons, and since we have never met, I don’t really have the right to holler. So, Go, Victoria! Woo hoo!

    Re: lazy Susans versus the Blind, I have had both in my current kitchen. I hate both of them for different reasons. Our remodel (sometime this year) is going to make our narrow L-shaped kitchen into what is essentially a galley kitchen, getting rid of the corner cupboards entirely.

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  25. Jane
    April 23, 2018 @ 11:55 am

    I love my lazy susan cabinets. My Instant Pot and crockpot and various other appliances live there. I also have pullout shelves for my pots and pans, and lots of big drawers for plastic and kitchen linens. The few standard lower cabinets I have I rarely open.

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    • Elizabeth
      April 23, 2018 @ 3:21 pm

      Ditto. My lazy susan holds all my appliances (blender, crockpot, bread machine), plus mixing bowls, tea fixings, etc. I love it.

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  26. jennifer C.
    April 23, 2018 @ 12:00 pm

    I agree pull outs can waste precious space. I converted antique French furniture into my kithen cabinets etc., which are shallow in depth compared to modern kitchen cabinets. However to work around that, because searching for stuff in the back of the cabinet is and will always be a pain, is to use a box or basket style pull out. What I may loose in space will be diminished (I probably will still lose some space I could’ve crammed something into) is that I can stack, pile in awkward kithcen gadgets, lids, baking goods etc. just like a deep drawer. I’m converting, not starting from scratch.
    You should consider the pull out blind cabinet. My friend used one in her tiny kitchen. It is perfect for items used less often. Large stock pots, baking pans, mixer etc. It allowed her to keep an aesthetically pleasing symmetry in her kitchen, the door front kept the “drawer” feature. It was a clever and useful solution for her.

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  27. Lisa D Witte
    April 23, 2018 @ 12:01 pm

    –For me, because the face of a full-door-corner-cabinet deviates from visual symmetry– by forgoing the drawer above the cupboard door… it is unacceptable.

    I utterly refuse to even consider the notion that the endlessly-talented Paul couldn’t take the unacceptable full-door and remake it into one that APPEARS to be a lovely drawer/door combo. (Plus, you get years of fun watching folks try to open one or both of them. 😀 )

    As to what’s behind it – I vote for plain shelves to maximize useable storage. You’re both lithe and bendy people, who will have no problems reaching into the furthest back bottom corner for that unwieldy unitasker you only keep for the essential function it provides once per lustrum.

    I’m with Paul on the economy front, but can’t understand how a practically inaccessible blind cabinet ranks as less outrageously offensive than a pullout system (no matter how inefficient). If forced to go that route, I’d *at least* have to put a baseplate on rails in the blind corner, so I could slide it (with contents) over to the door opening.

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    • Lisa D Witte
      April 23, 2018 @ 12:15 pm

      LOL! I accidentally just re-invented the Blind Corner Cabinet Solution ShelfGenie™.

      (Should have read the previous comments first.)

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  28. Edie
    April 23, 2018 @ 12:09 pm

    OK VEB…I have a similar dilemma. And I know each idea brings new problems. But I say NO to corners! Consider the induction in the piano (sorry Paul, may need to alter those drawers). Run cabinets across to window and do not turn that corner! Place tall GFT between the two windows or create something with matching cabinets…this may need to reach the ceiling to save some counter space or add back some cabinet storage. Mark my words…blind storage and little pads of counter space will not bring you happiness!

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  29. Grace
    April 23, 2018 @ 12:16 pm

    I’ve had blind cabinets in my two most recent kitchens – they came with the houses – and I hate them! Can’t remember what’s in there and even if I did, I don’t want to get on my knees to pull something out. They are truly wasted space.

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  30. Lauren Matheson
    April 23, 2018 @ 12:26 pm

    Le Man’s pull-out, behind a door-fused-to-drawer-face with carpenter’s biscuits. Boom, both economy and visual consistency SOLVED!
    Also, if Paul thinks cabinets are a more efficient use of space he needs to check out my 90cm wide, full-depth, soft-close drawer stacks. They hold baking supplies, Corningware, all our dishes… Everything. The only cabinets I have are a narrow pantry *full of pull-out baskets which are basically drawers* and the LeMan’s that was the only reasonable solution for the corner under the pass-through and beside the stove. It holds all our pots and pans, and baking pans.
    Or, go check out Addicted to Decorating’s very lengthy, picture-and-comment heavy posts on this issue vis her pantry.

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  31. teri
    April 23, 2018 @ 12:29 pm

    I have a blind corner. The top has one drawer full of crap, and one blind drawer front which is where the sink is. The vast underneath I get to my having to large plastic Ikea trays. I pull the tray which is easy to get to right out the way and then slide the other tray in to it’s place. I keep overflow china, mugs and plastic boxes in the dark corner. The light and easy tray has the toaster on it and vacuum flasks etc on the shelf above it. Underneath all my kitchen units I have a useful space for storing baking trays, coke, tins of beer, emergency end of the world tins of beans and sweet corn. On Ikea trays and easy to yank out when needed. The fronts are wood drawer fronts fixed in place with magnets. We got the drawer fronts on clearance for the price of a tin of coke each, I think you can buy ready made units on rails nowadays. I think everyone has xmas crap or giant mixing bowls that could go in a blind corner and if you waste a few minutes twice a year digging them out & in, at least you get twice as much in the space. xx

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  32. Ellen Shook
    April 23, 2018 @ 12:29 pm

    You will want to set that blind cabinet on fire the first time you try to get to something way in the back! When you get older and have arthritis like me, it is virtually impossible to access. There is one in my kitchen, and I cannot tell you how awful it is! Last year, the 10th year of our living in this house, I was on my annual major reorganization of the cabinets, cleaning and putting some fresh paper down. I started feeling around, and found a rolled up leather pouch down in that 3 – 4″ space between the two cabinet floors. Intrigued, I unrolled it, wondering if I was about to unveil the Holy Grail. Sadly there was nothing in it except dust. I think it may have been a storage pouch for a set of chef’s knives. It was obviously crammed down in that spot to keep other things from falling down under, never to be seen again. I donated it to the Salvation Army. I think I have some Christmas platters and bowls back there, but I am really not sure anymore… I only know that I HATE IT.

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  33. Nicole
    April 23, 2018 @ 12:50 pm

    Paul wants, basically, the corner area accessible from the nearest door on either side? I had that in the original uppers of my kitchen, and dubbed it The Place For Lost Tupperware… having the face frame in the middle makes it very difficult to get into the back (which is inevitably where The Thing You Want has ended up). The first pic with the faux frame attached to one of the doors would help, but…

    I believe you have overlooked diagonal cabinets 😉
    Corner sink cabinets exist… just don’t put a sink in it – https://bit.ly/2qVecO7
    Or, put the stove there, and turn your stove’s current spot into more storage – https://bit.ly/2HnXxdk
    Place a square cabinet on a diagonal – https://bit.ly/2Hmv4Zs
    Or, make it a full height pantry – https://bit.ly/2vFobgb

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  34. Darling Lily
    April 23, 2018 @ 1:03 pm

    This is a really good battle for you to not fight. You have all the fun of feeling smug about your gracious compromising, and then you use the impossible-to-access space for Christmas decorations, which he gets to retrieve every year, so he can feel righteous about utilizing the space. You will get immense satisfaction every year as you watch him deal with the aggravation of actually accessing this space he was so determined to save.

    I call that a Win-Win situation.

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  35. Surreal Me
    April 23, 2018 @ 1:11 pm

    Old kitchen I have. Dead corner space (DCS) = perfect storage for paper towel rolls. PLUS accessing creates mini workouts – first to replace supply and then to get a roll because hands and knees position is required along with stretching to the back of cupboard -especially as supply runs out.
    DISCLAIMER: AVOID use of paper towels as they are bad for the environment.

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  36. Merrill Weitzel
    April 23, 2018 @ 1:12 pm

    Ok. First I adore your blog. Second – I too have a Paul – pretty sure they were separated at birth. Finally – have just (2 years ago) finished my kitchen renovation (read new period perfect) of our 1902 colonial revival – I feel compelled to weigh in…. fight for the drawers. What you loose is space is a micro fragment of what you make up for in utility/ happiness. My two cents… ❤️

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  37. Grace
    April 23, 2018 @ 1:14 pm

    NO!!! No blind corner cabinet without an insert! Here’s the solution which will give you the symmetry you want…but it’s counter intuitive!!! Ready? Skip the blind part of the blind cabinet. Instead, do two larger…and more useful…symmetrical cabinets on either side of the corner. And, I love the open shelves idea. It has VEB written all over it!

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  38. Gina Barbeay
    April 23, 2018 @ 1:15 pm

    My corner cabinet has a drawer at the top then a series pf pull outs that offer me MORE space than a lazy susan. One two shelf pull out slides out then has hinges to turn out of the way. Then there is a second pull out that reaches all the way back to the recesses of the corner and slides forward into the space the first hinged shelf unit sits when all is in it’s place. This is difficult to explain but the cabinet is an Omega brand so perhaps they have some
    Information on it.

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  39. Pam
    April 23, 2018 @ 1:55 pm

    Incorporate “pop up” counter storage?

    https://www.diynetwork.com/videos/pop-up-counter-storage-0170189

    (Love your “words” !)

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    • Jackie B
      April 23, 2018 @ 10:02 pm

      This is amazing!

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    • Joanna
      April 24, 2018 @ 10:01 am

      Great – now I want pop up counters.

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    • LeighTX
      April 24, 2018 @ 4:55 pm

      Well, this is a game-changer. I want magic pop-up storage for all my appliances now!

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  40. cb
    April 23, 2018 @ 1:58 pm

    I don’t work for Hafele, but check out their Lemans blind corner- it’s wonderful and smooth and great use of storage space-

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    • Christi
      April 27, 2018 @ 3:00 am

      Second this. I have these pullouts and they are amazing! They store so much and getting things out (even heavy appliances like my food processor) is so easy! And adding my vote to the drawers. Never going back to regular cabinets.

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